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8ba11
2 Apr @ 6:37pm
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Was Artimis II Inspired by kerbal space program??
It would make sense cause we know space was invented becuase of kerbal space program so was artimis II also inspired by kerbal space program??
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Originally posted by Bomoo:

> Originally posted by meraco:
> You're thinking NASA spends it's time playing KSP for inspiration and technical inovation?
> You would be wrong.

He's right, actually.
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Tibbitts_
11 Apr @ 6:37pm

> Originally posted by meraco:
> You're thinking NASA spends it's time playing KSP for inspiration and technical inovation?
> You would be wrong.

you cannot be serious
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8ba11
11 Apr @ 6:37pm

> Originally posted by Lisias:

> > Originally posted by kninevortex:
> > exacttly

> So why do you insist on talking about? Are you both Flying Monkeys?

No correlation What so ever
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meraco
11 Apr @ 8:15pm

> Originally posted by Tibbitts_:

> > Originally posted by meraco:
> > You're thinking NASA spends it's time playing KSP for inspiration and technical inovation?
> > You would be wrong.

> you cannot be serious

I am as serious as the OP. Make of that as you will.
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8ba11
11 Apr @ 8:24pm

> Originally posted by meraco:

> > Originally posted by Tibbitts_:
> > you cannot be serious

> I am as serious as the OP. Make of that as you will.

Nah im not that serious im silly :3
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Lisias
11 Apr @ 9:32pm
Great! So you guys will not be bothered by my quoting myself on the matter, just to keep the subject on topic!
Pretend I'm joking about!!

> Originally posted by Lisias:
> Allow me to resume it:
> 1. A tongue-in-cheek post jokes about a game being used by a famous Space Agency.
> 2. Some dudes bring to the table that being a joke or not, apparently some serious dude associated or related to that Agency had, indeed, used the damned game on some roles while Planning a Mission
> 3. An asinine steps up to harass and public shame anyone mentioning the subject,
> 4. One of them took offense, and rationally debated the subject, bringing some evidences (and being clear that evidences are not proofs) that the idea not only isn't crazy, but we have at least a few testimonials about it happening. In the process, it was realized that yet another famous game was used to a similar role in a different "Agency" in Europe.
> 5. Asinine doubles down both the sophism and the offenses (disguising them as "jokes").
> 6. Asinine is confronted by the consequences of his behaviour.
> 7. Some other people, not unreasonably, gets the kerfuffle in the middle and don't understand what's happening.

Last edited by Lisias; 11 Apr @ 9:33pm
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fendrin
12 Apr @ 5:11am

> Originally posted by Lisias:
> Great! So you guys will not be bothered by my quoting myself on the matter, just to keep the subject on topic!
> Pretend I'm joking about!!

> > Originally posted by Lisias:
> > Allow me to resume it:
> > 1. A tongue-in-cheek post jokes about a game being used by a famous Space Agency.
> > 2. Some dudes bring to the table that being a joke or not, apparently some serious dude associated or related to that Agency had, indeed, used the damned game on some roles while Planning a Mission
> > 3. An asinine steps up to harass and public shame anyone mentioning the subject,
> > 4. One of them took offense, and rationally debated the subject, bringing some evidences (and being clear that evidences are not proofs) that the idea not only isn't crazy, but we have at least a few testimonials about it happening. In the process, it was realized that yet another famous game was used to a similar role in a different "Agency" in Europe.
> > 5. Asinine doubles down both the sophism and the offenses (disguising them as "jokes").
> > 6. Asinine is confronted by the consequences of his behaviour.
> > 7. Some other people, not unreasonably, gets the kerfuffle in the middle and don't understand what's happening.

You should write a book about this thread.
"Under the tinfoil hat — The true story how NASA went from a serious space agency to a PR organisation for games"
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thomasstewart812
12 Apr @ 7:11am
I BET THEIR CRAPPER WORKS
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fendrin
12 Apr @ 7:15am

> Originally posted by thomasstewart812:
> I BET THEIR CRAPPER WORKS

The only chance it could work is by extensively testing by NASA specialists in KSP.
Only those parts of Artemis might make it home safely.
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Lisias
12 Apr @ 10:47am

> Originally posted by fendrin:
> You should write a book about this thread.
> "Under the tinfoil hat — The true story how NASA went from a serious space agency to a PR organisation for games"

Work in progress. Both of us will be famous someday!
NASA is a incredibly prestigious Organization, and they are aware of it. It's the reason they have such a harsh and tight Code of Conduct, because they just can't indulge themselves on being involved into any kind of mud that could affect their public image - they live and die by their public image.
So, you will never see them recognizing officially some of their associates would had ever used (unsanctioned or not) a game involved on such horrendous scandal as we had with KSP2 (and at this point, it really doesn't matters if some of them really did or not).
They just can't allow such association, Caesar's wife must be above suspicion. And I really think that you should know better at this point.

> Originally posted by fendrin:

> > Originally posted by thomasstewart812:
> > I BET THEIR CRAPPER WORKS

> The only chance it could work is by extensively testing by NASA specialists in KSP.
> Only those parts of Artemis might make it home safely.

The thing is that NASA's official professionally made simulators can only simulate what they already know for sure when the tool was implemented.
But the Solar System is incredibly dynamic, essentially chaotic after a point.
NASA tools can't indulge themselves into the chaos, they need to be reliable and deterministic, and so they give you only the options that are in compliance with NASA's already established and proven ways.
But with compliance, follows complacence. The incredibly series of unfortunate events that culminated with that monstrous disaster that was the Starliner mission to ISS clearly demonstrates how bad complacency can affect their reputation.
Here, follows ANOTHER example on how rigid and inflexible tools can hurt your bottom-line (alert: ad wall):

> A Brazilian who does not work at any space agency calculated a round trip route to Mars in just 7 months using asteroid trajectories as cosmic shortcuts, and the study was accepted by one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world.

https://en.clickpetroleoegas.com.br/a-brazilian-who-does-not-work-at-any-space-agency-calculated-a-round-trip-route-to-mars-in-just-7-months-using-asteroid-trajectories-as-cosm-btl96/
Had this dude really found a way to short a Mars journey and back to just 7 months? It's still to be seen, but what he found is good enough to trigger some serious discussions on Acta Astronautica (does his name makes something rings somewhere?). Chances are that this dude may be wrong (when something is too good to be true, usually it's because it is), but still he may be right, and if he's right... Boy, what a riot this is going to be.
But the most important question is: why NASA is not the one making such discoveries? Their budget is light years ahead of what a single dude from a small University stuck in a pretty small city lost somewhere in the Brazil's coastline can afford.
And, yet, here we are.
Wondering right now if, in fact, your behaviour around here really reflects how NASA works internally nowadays, It would explain a lot of things.
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*Kraken damned typos.
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fendrin
12 Apr @ 11:14am

> Originally posted by Lisias:
> NASA is a incredibly prestigious Organization, and they are aware of it. It's the reason they have such a harsh and tight Code of Conduct, because they just can't indulge themselves on being involved into any kind of mud that could affect their public image - they live and die by their public image.
> So, you will never see them recognizing officially some of their associates would had ever used (unsanctioned or not) a game involved on such horrendous scandal as we had with KSP2 (and at this point, it really doesn't matters if some of them really did or not).
> They just can't allow such association, Caesar's wife must be above suspicion. And I really think that you should know better at this point.

I see.
NASA can't admit they nowadays use KSP1 for everything because KSP2 failed.
Your book will be a groundbreaking Pulizer-price worthy hit.
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Lisias
12 Apr @ 6:56pm

> Originally posted by fendrin:

> > Originally posted by Lisias:
> > NASA is a incredibly prestigious Organization, and they are aware of it. It's the reason they have such a harsh and tight Code of Conduct, because they just can't indulge themselves on being involved into any kind of mud that could affect their public image - they live and die by their public image.
> > So, you will never see them recognizing officially some of their associates would had ever used (unsanctioned or not) a game involved on such horrendous scandal as we had with KSP2 (and at this point, it really doesn't matters if some of them really did or not).
> > They just can't allow such association, Caesar's wife must be above suspicion. And I really think that you should know better at this point.

> I see.
> NASA can't admit they nowadays use KSP1 for everything because KSP2 failed.

I sincerely hope that you do what you as a unhealthy pastime or similar to satisfy whatever is your deep sick mental disorder of yours - because if by some reason you do what you do as part of your professional attributions, I'm afraid you boss should be considering replacing you right now (or plain extinguish the position).
You just can't loose an opportunity to make a bad situation worse.
An unfortunate girl lost her internship merely because she had the unfortunate idea of using some vulgar expressions of happiness and "NASA" on the same tweet. Do you really think NASA would do less about this massive train-wreck that is KSP2?
It really doesn't matter if they used it or not at this point - it's the **ASSOCIATION** the problem.

> Originally posted by fendrin:
> Your book will be a groundbreaking Pulizer-price worthy hit.

Unlikely. Books about how unchecked people with mental disorder can disrupt open social structures and damage youngsters' mental health rarely are nominated for such prizes.
But some of them can still reach some popularity if you now the right people - around here, a book about Psychopaths[www.amazon.com.br] became a huge hit.
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8ba11
12 Apr @ 6:59pm

> Originally posted by Lisias:

> > Originally posted by fendrin:
> > I see.
> > NASA can't admit they nowadays use KSP1 for everything because KSP2 failed.

> I sincerely hope that you do what you as a unhealthy pastime or similar to satisfy whatever is your deep sick mental disorder of yours - because if by some reason you do what you do as part of your professional attributions, I'm afraid you boss should be considering replacing you right now (or plain extinguish the position).
> You just can't loose an opportunity to make a bad situation worse.
> An unfortunate girl lost her internship merely because she had the unfortunate idea of using some vulgar expressions of happiness and "NASA" on the same tweet. Do you really think NASA would do less about this massive train-wreck that is KSP2?
> It really doesn't matter if they used it or not at this point - it's the **ASSOCIATION** the problem.

> > Originally posted by fendrin:
> > Your book will be a groundbreaking Pulizer-price worthy hit.

> Unlikely. Books about how unchecked people with mental disorder can disrupt open social structures and damage youngsters' mental health rarely are nominated for such prizes.
> But some of them can still reach some popularity if you now the right people - around here, a book about Psychopaths[www.amazon.com.br] became a huge hit.

Dude, who's side are you on. You're so bipolar, Somebody agrees with you and you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flame them. Genuinely get a life.
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Lisias
12 Apr @ 7:17pm

> Originally posted by 8ba11:

> > Originally posted by Lisias:

> > > Originally posted by fendrin:
> > > I see.
> > > NASA can't admit they nowadays use KSP1 for everything because KSP2 failed.

> > I sincerely hope that you do what you as a unhealthy pastime or similar to satisfy whatever is your deep sick mental disorder of yours - because if by some reason you do what you do as part of your professional attributions, I'm afraid you boss should be considering replacing you right now (or plain extinguish the position).
> > You just can't loose an opportunity to make a bad situation worse.
> > An unfortunate girl lost her internship merely because she had the unfortunate idea of using some vulgar expressions of happiness and "NASA" on the same tweet. Do you really think NASA would do less about this massive train-wreck that is KSP2?
> > It really doesn't matter if they used it or not at this point - it's the **ASSOCIATION** the problem.

> > > Originally posted by fendrin:
> > > Your book will be a groundbreaking Pulizer-price worthy hit.

> > Unlikely. Books about how unchecked people with mental disorder can disrupt open social structures and damage youngsters' mental health rarely are nominated for such prizes.
> > But some of them can still reach some popularity if you now the right people - around here, a book about Psychopaths[www.amazon.com.br] became a huge hit.

> Dude, who's side are you on. You're so bipolar, Somebody agrees with you and you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flame them. Genuinely get a life.

Someone that can tell sarcasm from legit compliments. Not to mention recognizing Flying Monkeys - being them intentional or just one of the damaged youngster I mentioned that lost the ability to recognize when someone are being abused or not due the normalization of the aggression.
In the expectation you would be the latter: you can't see in which side I am because there's none. You don't side with Truth, you live it or not.
Healthy discussions is about getting nearest as possible to the Truth, not about winning arguments.
You simply can't afford to let weeds invade your garden if you want to harvest healthy produce from it.
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fendrin
13 Apr @ 3:33am

> Originally posted by Lisias:
> I sincerely hope that you do what you as a unhealthy pastime or similar to satisfy whatever is your deep sick mental disorder of yours - because if by some reason you do what you do as part of your professional attributions, I'm afraid you boss should be considering replacing you right now (or plain extinguish the position).

People won't get fired because they disagree with you on a gaming forum.
Especially not about such a silly topic.
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Lisias
15 hours ago

> Originally posted by fendrin:

> > Originally posted by Lisias:
> > I sincerely hope that you do what you as a unhealthy pastime or similar to satisfy whatever is your deep sick mental disorder of yours - because if by some reason you do what you do as part of your professional attributions, I'm afraid you boss should be considering replacing you right now (or plain extinguish the position).

> People won't get fired because they disagree with you on a gaming forum.
> Especially not about such a silly topic.

But they do when they violate their company's code of conduct.
Since, obviously, you don't have reasons to fear for your job, then obviously whatever code of conduct you follow (if any) is not as harsh as NASA's. What means that you don't have connections there. What means that your previous arguments on this thread have little to no value.
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* I swear by God, this auto-corrector is trolling me.
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